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Re: Handling
« Reply #100 on: April 8, 2011, 09:28:39 AM »


I can't imagine where you will end up if you get more ignorant [cheeky]
Riding on cut springs in a 4dr sedan, most likely.
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Re: Handling
« Reply #101 on: April 8, 2011, 05:05:00 PM »
Quote from: Senior Tālibān... SS Works link=topic=20126.msg2424292#msg2424292 date=13021175 [nod
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test drive and talk so much crap and bios  [noclue]
i have driven sooooo many different cars in my life and i mean hundreds and no it will not compare to a man that his livelihood and profession is to test drive cars
:-[ Kinda overstating it a bit still. Had some fun for a lttle while back then.

GTS has much to learn and it would be so much easier if he weren't so angry with having an open mind!

shut up please you getting me more ignorant

I can't imagine where you will end up if you get more ignorant [cheeky]
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Re: Handling
« Reply #102 on: April 8, 2011, 05:05:44 PM »


I can't imagine where you will end up if you get more ignorant [cheeky]
Riding on cut springs in a 4dr sedan, most likely.
yup with two engine blocks to add weight so it lower

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Re: Handling
« Reply #103 on: April 8, 2011, 05:07:06 PM »
Quote from: Senior Tālibān... SS Works link=topic=20126.msg2424292#msg2424292 date=13021175 [nod
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test drive and talk so much crap and bios  [noclue]
i have driven sooooo many different cars in my life and i mean hundreds and no it will not compare to a man that his livelihood and profession is to test drive cars
:-[ Kinda overstating it a bit still. Had some fun for a lttle while back then.

GTS has much to learn and it would be so much easier if he weren't so angry with having an open mind!

shut up please you getting me more ignorant
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Re: Handling
« Reply #104 on: April 9, 2011, 03:30:03 AM »


I can't imagine where you will end up if you get more ignorant [cheeky]
Riding on cut springs in a 4dr sedan, most likely.

 [dwl] [dwl] [dwl] [dwl] [dwl] [dwl] [dwl] [dwl] [dwl]
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Re: Handling
« Reply #105 on: April 11, 2011, 09:23:48 AM »


I can't imagine where you will end up if you get more ignorant [cheeky]
Riding on cut springs in a 4dr sedan, most likely.
yup with two engine blocks to add weight so it lower
Safer than cut...
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Re: Handling
« Reply #106 on: April 11, 2011, 10:33:09 AM »


I can't imagine where you will end up if you get more ignorant [cheeky]
Riding on cut springs in a 4dr sedan, most likely.
yup with two engine blocks to add weight so it lower
Safer than cut...
for real  [notworthy]

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Re: Handling
« Reply #107 on: April 12, 2011, 02:18:07 PM »
Kyb ftw

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Re: Handling
« Reply #109 on: June 21, 2011, 04:47:22 PM »
This is decent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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« Reply #110 on: June 21, 2011, 09:20:32 PM »
This is decent!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Re: Handling
« Reply #111 on: June 21, 2011, 09:22:39 PM »
thinks he is getting post counts  [nod]

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Re: Handling
« Reply #112 on: October 11, 2011, 09:56:39 PM »

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Re: Handling
« Reply #113 on: November 2, 2011, 10:47:23 PM »
The more difficulties one has to encounter, within and without, the more significant and the higher in inspiration his life will be.

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Re: Handling
« Reply #114 on: November 3, 2011, 08:19:52 AM »
talk bout handling me want a sway bar e nuh  [ponder]

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« Reply #115 on: November 3, 2011, 10:45:35 AM »
The more difficulties one has to encounter, within and without, the more significant and the higher in inspiration his life will be.

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Re: Handling
« Reply #116 on: March 5, 2012, 11:56:24 AM »
I hope everybody learn from this mi knw some pple on wheels that love buy fast car but all them ever think about is speed when mi drive them car it fast yes but the suspension feel like crap the only few things that look good is the paint job, rims, audio system & of course engine & gearbox. More time a just engine & gearbox some pple buy  [dwl] [dwl] mi recall the last one that mi drive mi turn off the radio & to how it need suspension I that I was @ a piano recital so much music. [rofl]
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Re: Handling
« Reply #117 on: September 16, 2013, 01:33:57 PM »
Multiple questions for the Pro's on the forum. Apologies if they were already answered, you could just point me to a link. Just help out a young car enthusiast understand the world of Handling

1. Wider Wheels
This topic has been extensively debated on multiple forums with science saying nay and everybody butt dyno saying yay
http://www.supraforums.com/forum/showthread.php?589281-Discussion-Wider-tires-better-traction-true-or-false
http://www.ultimatecarpage.com/forum/showthread.php?t=34885

So I pose it to you guys.
Do wider tires make you feel that you have more grip?
Would you feel more confident in your cornering limits with a wider tire as opposed to a narrower version with a stickier compound?
The reason I ask. Right now I'm running 175/70R13 on my swift. But the other day I saw my co-worker with some damn wide 225/50R12.5! I was hooked, I felt that If I had those tires on my swift I could hug corners like a dc2-r  [bike]

Forget fuel economy, assume I can modify the wheel well to fit and assume we're leaving rain out of the equation (wider tires worse in rain); would adding wider tires to my lightweight swift give the impression of better handling?

2. Polyurethane
I posed this question on my thread in the Suzuki forum, so hoping I can reach I wider audience here. Polyurethane seem to be the ultimate damping material in the tuner world when it comes to mounts and bushings. Heck they even have DIY videos for making your own Poly Engine mounts.

I did my research, and sure enough there's a downside http://www.iwsti.com/forums/gd-suspension-handling-stiffening/206293-bushings-rubber-vs-polyurethane.html

because polyurethane is that much stiffer than OE rubber, it prevents the chassis bits from twisting / flexing to match road conditions and might give unpredictable handling. Added to that they require more maintenance than your typical OE rubber pieces.

As a young enthusiast, I'm willing to sacrifice comfort for that added ounce of road feel and handling  [bb]. So the question to you guys.
Are they worth it?
Has anybody ever upgraded OE pieces and Polyurethane aftermarket and noticed any differences?

3. Weight Distribution
I dunno the curb weight of my car, but I figure its in the 650KG to 750KG  [ponder]range. We all know that making your car lighter can affect handling, acceleration and fuel economy. But what happens when you can't go any lighter, then that's where we start distributing by relocating components to get that magic Front / Rear weight distribution that works for us.

Obviously I'm in an FF, that's probably a 70F/30R weight distribution or thereabouts. Some things I could see my self relocating are the battery and the fuel cell (not much I guess). Maybe getting a welder to mount the engine a little lower and to the rear of the engine bay (dunno)

My question to the Pro's, where should my goal be when it comes to weight distribution.
Does the BMW 50F/50R formula work for everybody (i.e. is that the ultimate setup, regardless of FF, FR, 4WD or MR)

4. Chassis Bracing
Last question. Chassis bracing. As far as I can tell, the options are Lower Sway Bars, Upper Strut Mounts and Lower Chassis Brace. Lets say that over the course of 3 years you can only install one of the above at a time. What order would you go
1st  X
2nd Y
3rd  Z

Mannnn... that was a lot. Its not life and death, so no need to rush / force yourself to answer. Just help a brother out if you have free time. Cool  [wave]
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Re: Handling
« Reply #118 on: October 21, 2013, 06:22:20 AM »
good stuffffff

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Re: Handling
« Reply #119 on: April 24, 2014, 03:40:48 PM »
Good read

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Re: Handling
« Reply #120 on: October 28, 2014, 04:41:37 PM »
gud stuff
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Re: Handling
« Reply #121 on: November 2, 2014, 08:18:17 PM »
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