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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #150 on: July 17, 2007, 11:30:35 PM »
That drain looks pretty nasty.  It actually looks like a oil collection canal.  This is what this forum is trying to prevent, it's trying to bring awareness of the environmental impact that dumping waste oil down the drain will have.  That pollution will eventually work it's way into the water supply and cause serious consequences for the island.  Jamaica's river will become "cesspools" and the natural beauty of the island, and health of the people will be negatively impacted.

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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #151 on: July 18, 2007, 03:40:49 PM »
bout that look real bad  [evil]
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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #152 on: July 18, 2007, 04:03:50 PM »
Thats an average drain. The minority are cleaned.

My own water supply was threatened by informal car washers. I started getting soap scum in my water, so I went down and fenced off the area. For goos measure I collected a bucket of cow urine from my farm, filled my pesticide sprayer with it sprayed them.
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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #153 on: July 19, 2007, 09:35:23 AM »
I was reading this
http://journeytoforever.org/biofuel_library/ethanol_motherearth/me4.html

I hoenstly don't know what to make of it.

It wouldn't have much use in Jamaica, but it's a nice cheap idea for people in snowy countries...but I can't see how this is still good for the nevironement.

Better but still not good

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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #154 on: July 25, 2007, 04:46:30 AM »
use it as  tire shine
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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #155 on: July 25, 2007, 10:48:19 AM »
you know oil degrades rubber right?

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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #156 on: July 25, 2007, 03:21:01 PM »
you know oil degrades rubber right?

Yep in my last car oil+power steering fluid that was leaking removed all the rubber on parts of my rack & pinion
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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #157 on: July 27, 2007, 09:06:14 PM »
Well my research is turning up some interesting finds. There seems to be a place in Ewarton called Recycling Corporation of Jamaica or RYCO-JA.
They recycling used vegetable oil and other oils.  I'm going to see if they only recycle cooking oils or if they take petroleum oil as well and find out what they do with it and how they refine it.

The seem to have a Kingston branch as well according to yellow pages online. 

Recycling Corporation Of Jamaica 11 Trinidad Terrace (5), , Jamaica - (876) 991-7926

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I called and left a message on their machine but I will be calling them back tomorrow.


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« Reply #158 on: July 27, 2007, 09:30:42 PM »
Well my research is turning up some interesting finds. There seems to be a place in Ewarton called Recycling Corporation of Jamaica or RYCO-JA.
They recycling used vegetable oil and other oils.  I'm going to see if they only recycle cooking oils or if they take petroleum oil as well and find out what they do with it and how they refine it.

The seem to have a Kingston branch as well according to yellow pages online. 

Recycling Corporation Of Jamaica 11 Trinidad Terrace (5), , Jamaica - (876) 991-7926

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recycles used vegetable oil

rycoja@aol.com
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Charlemont Industrial Complex, Ewarton


I called and left a message on their machine but I will be calling them back tomorrow.


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Did u call Stewarts find out who comes and takes their used oil?

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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #159 on: July 27, 2007, 11:23:12 PM »
you know oil degrades rubber right?

nope didnt know thanks for the info, was a cheap way of shinning the tires
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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #160 on: July 27, 2007, 11:40:14 PM »
Well my research is turning up some interesting finds. There seems to be a place in Ewarton called Recycling Corporation of Jamaica or RYCO-JA.
They recycling used vegetable oil and other oils.  I'm going to see if they only recycle cooking oils or if they take petroleum oil as well and find out what they do with it and how they refine it.

The seem to have a Kingston branch as well according to yellow pages online. 

Recycling Corporation Of Jamaica 11 Trinidad Terrace (5), , Jamaica - (876) 991-7926

Ryco-ja
recycles used vegetable oil

rycoja@aol.com
985-3743
toll free 18889917926

Charlemont Industrial Complex, Ewarton


I called and left a message on their machine but I will be calling them back tomorrow.


It might be easier to keep up with my efforts on my hi5 and facebook groups

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http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=2755730832

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Did u call Stewarts find out who comes and takes their used oil?

no but thanks for reminding me

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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #161 on: July 30, 2007, 11:00:07 AM »
I called Shell, NEPA and premier waste management.

I was pointed to cement company who as I've told you all before don't take used oil any more.

I asked my mechanic who collects their old oil, they told me a rasta man comes and pics it up and sometimes a church who need to line their foot ball field and kill trees.

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I called RYCO-Ja but, no answer, so I emailed them.

I am gonna call JET and see what they know or don't know.

I here there is someone in ochi who collects it but I hear they strain the oil and sell it back. That concerns me because if it isn't filtered properly and boiled to get rid of water absorbed in it then it will be poor quality oil.
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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #162 on: July 30, 2007, 04:12:32 PM »
they're sending u in circles bredda

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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #163 on: July 30, 2007, 11:06:48 PM »
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I here there is someone in ochi who collects it but I hear they strain the oil and sell it back. That concerns me because if it isn't filtered properly and boiled to get rid of water absorbed in it then it will be poor quality oil.
They are on Main Street across from the Catholic Church just before Pineapple Place. Its a little shack marked 'Bulk Oil'. The gentleman goes around and a)buys/collects used oil, b)drains it from used/wrecked/junked vehicles/engines. He then strains it, and depending on the batch might add some new oil. His major customers are the truck guys, and taxi men. I'm not sure what happens to the oil after the third party is finished with it.
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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #164 on: July 31, 2007, 08:04:54 AM »
Fantastic, well it seems I need to get to work with my chemistry friends from UWI and work something out.

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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #165 on: July 31, 2007, 08:48:32 AM »
Thats an average drain. The minority are cleaned.

My own water supply was threatened by informal car washers. I started getting soap scum in my water, so I went down and fenced off the area. For goos measure I collected a bucket of cow urine from my farm, filled my pesticide sprayer with it sprayed them.
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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #166 on: July 31, 2007, 02:14:54 PM »
Dont they use the same oil when they are paving new roads? I remember always seeing some oil being sprayed on the gravel and tar.
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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #167 on: August 16, 2007, 02:09:40 PM »
Yeah but honestly I've read that it's not the best thing to make a road with. But yes they use it

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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #168 on: August 22, 2007, 10:23:30 PM »
I've turned to my chemistry post graduate colleagues to help me research different processes of re-refining used motor oil and producing biodiesel from veg. oil.

The veg oil is just a "might as well" situation.

The govt., agriculture ministry and other inudtries that should be interested in this in my opinion are barely taking the possibilities seriously

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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #169 on: August 27, 2007, 02:02:16 PM »
Rory...if I write an article about used oil and its dangers could you try to pitch it to the editor so he can consider publishing it?

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« Reply #170 on: August 27, 2007, 07:10:35 PM »
Rory...if I write an article about used oil and its dangers could you try to pitch it to the editor so he can consider publishing it?

Your article would bring about an awareness that is obviously lacking in present day Jamaica.  If you are successful in publishing the article would you please post the finished article on this forum for us all to read.  Your efforts and campaign to find a solution is commended.  Job well done..

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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #171 on: August 27, 2007, 07:16:51 PM »
Rory...if I write an article about used oil and its dangers could you try to pitch it to the editor so he can consider publishing it?
Write it, send it in I'll see what I can do, but I used to write stories on road repairs, and now they're more potholes than ever. So please don't get you hopes up about changing public opinion or gov't policy.
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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #172 on: August 27, 2007, 07:25:07 PM »
I understand...I'll write it and send it in.

I at least need to know that I tried everything I could.

I guess if I tell the govt that planting trees and shrubs in between houses and the sea could have prevented the caribbean Terrace disaster, it would just fall on deaf ears.

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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #173 on: August 27, 2007, 08:35:51 PM »
I guess if I tell the govt that planting trees and shrubs in between houses and the sea could have prevented the caribbean Terrace disaster, it would just fall on deaf ears.

There are building regulations that determine how close to the sea you can build. People/Developers ignore it. There are housing projects that shouldn't exist.
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« Reply #174 on: August 27, 2007, 09:41:50 PM »
I guess if I tell the govt that planting trees and shrubs in between houses and the sea could have prevented the caribbean Terrace disaster, it would just fall on deaf ears.

There are building regulations that determine how close to the sea you can build. People/Developers ignore it. There are housing projects that shouldn't exist.

WELL SAID....

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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #175 on: August 28, 2007, 11:13:47 AM »
not to mention they keep relocating people to other flood prone areas.

Any way back on topic

Rory, you think I should target the Gleaner instead? I have a link there as well. I wouldn't mind publishing in both gleaner and Wheels magazine, but I'm pretty sure they would have to be two entirely differently looking articles in order to avoid conflict of interest. I think the gleaner would grab a wider audience, but the Wheels magazine would target the appropriate audience. Both both would pretty much capture everyone in my opinion.

Please advise.

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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #176 on: August 28, 2007, 02:00:19 PM »
Its your article, you're free to send it to whomever.
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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #177 on: August 28, 2007, 02:28:58 PM »
I just don't know how the Herald would react to seeing an article they published in the gleaner at the same time.

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« Reply #178 on: August 28, 2007, 03:29:57 PM »
Well, we wouldn't like it...
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« Reply #179 on: August 28, 2007, 04:36:15 PM »
btw just had to comment. The other day when you let me pass in traffic was the first time I've seen your Glanza since it's been sprayed over. It looks awesome  [2thumbsup] SELL OFF

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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #180 on: August 29, 2007, 10:53:49 PM »
Thank you. Awaiting the article. sunherald@cwjamaica.com. Attention:Me...
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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #181 on: August 30, 2007, 10:00:49 AM »
Well I had an article on hand but I let a friend proof read it and he said frankly he wouldn't read it, because honestly he doesn't care what happens to used oil. So throwing facts at him won't work. He suggested I dig up fines and jail time, something people can more relate to so I'm in the process of doing that.

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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #182 on: August 31, 2007, 09:48:36 PM »
btw just had to comment. The other day when you let me pass in traffic was the first time I've seen your Glanza since it's been sprayed over. It looks awesome  [2thumbsup] SELL OFF

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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #184 on: September 7, 2007, 03:00:35 AM »

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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #185 on: September 7, 2007, 09:01:23 AM »
very nice product
problem is you have to catch the oil before it settles based on what I read
I should see what it would take to get this in the country though.

Still need a collection facility solution though

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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #186 on: September 11, 2007, 12:54:41 AM »
very nice product
problem is you have to catch the oil before it settles based on what I read
I should see what it would take to get this in the country though.

Still need a collection facility solution though

definatly need a collection facility .......is that product them use on oil spils to turn it into organic degradable matter it should work no matter wat but i think the contaminance would probly affect it(i aint no chemist) but its a start

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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #187 on: September 11, 2007, 08:01:52 AM »
It is a start. It is very useful because collecting oil is a must, but you can't collect already spilled oil, which is common when people change oil or clean tankers. This product should be a must for any mechanic or oil tanker cleaner.

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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #188 on: September 17, 2007, 04:33:49 PM »
Just wanted you guys to know I contacted NEPA via email which turned out better than contacting them by phone
I think I got some decent information. Not as much as I'd want but it at least points me in the right direction.

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Dear Kevin,

 

My apologies for the delay in responding to you as I have only just returned from annual leave.  Please see my comments and suggestions inserted in the body of your Email below.

 

Best regards

 

Chris

 

Christopher Corbin

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14-20 Port Royal Street

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JAMAICA, WEST INDIES

 

Tel. # (876) 922 9267-9

Fax. # (876) 922 9292

 

E mail: cjc.uneprcuja@cwjamaica.com                         

From: Kevin Jackson [mailto:jackkevin@gmail.com]
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Subject: used oil recycling in the Caribbean

 
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I came across this on the internet http://www.cep.unep.org/newsandevents/events/2006/environmentally-sound-management-of-used-oil/

I am a Jamaican citizen who is also an automotive enthusiast. I am very concerned about the impact used motor oil is having on our environment. I am also concerned about our oil bill. The fact that recycled and re-refined oil can be used to reduce our oil bill makes me wonder why no body seems to care what happens to used motor oil.

Chris
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True.  It is growing concern in many Caribbean Countries in terms of appropriate management, risk of oil spills, human health impacts and damage to both terrestrial and marine environments.  Fundamentally there is also an economic issue given high fuel and energy costs.

me
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I have contacted so many agencies in Jamaica and I can't get answers, advice nor pointed in the right direction. I have contacted, National Environmental Protection Agency (NEPA), Jamaica Environmental Trust (JET), ESSO, SHELL, Petrojam, automotive garages, and many other companies and it is a mystery to everyone here, where used oil goes.

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There have been some efforts nationally and regionally to look at the issue.  In many countries, used oil management fell within the responsibility of the local waste management authorities although quite honestly few were set up to adequately collect, treat and/or dispose of used oil.  In other countries, private sector including garages, automobile dealers got more involved and in the case of Saint Lucia for example the local Distillery, a laundry and a clay brick producer collect used oil both from ships and at selected storage points for reuse as a fuel additive.  In Trinidad, due to the oil refinery present there, there is a more comprehensive re- refining of used oil.

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Could you give me some advice or at least inform me of your initiative and how I can make Jamaica a part of it. Or do you know whether or not Jamaica is already on board with your initiative. My country has just had their regional elections and leader ship has changed so this would be the most opportune time to get them to listen.

 
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Based on the various national experiences, there was an effort done sub-regionally among the OECS countries and more recently within the framework of the BASEL Convention on the Transboundary Movement of Hazardous Wastes to develop a Regional Wide Strategy for managing Used Oil.  The focal point for this initiative in Jamaica is the Ministry of Environment – Contact Person Ms. Gillian Guthrie.  This strategy provides an overview of possible measures for dealing with used oil and strongly encourages participation by private industry and the general public.

 

I see to recall that there was some interest by the Cement Plant here in Jamaica to accept used oil for their own production process.

 

The Draft Regional Strategy for used oil can be downloaded from our website at: http://www.cep.unep.org/meetings/2007/4th-lbs-istac/meeting_documents_view

 

The draft strategy for Saint Lucia which I was involved in can be found at http://www.stlucia.gov.lc/docs/nemo/nrp/guidelines/OilStrategy.pdf which demonstrates that we do not need very high tech solutions.  This was developed from the draft OECS strategy which I cannot put my hands on right now.

 

Please feel free to contact me for any further information.



Thanks in advance

Kevin Jackson
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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #189 on: September 17, 2007, 05:09:34 PM »
Basically, you're screwed. It was hoped that private sector would take up the slack, but they haven't, so government has to come up with a law to make them do such.
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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #190 on: September 18, 2007, 10:28:14 AM »
Government and politics will put this agenda on the back burner and nothing will be done in the near future, or at all.  How about the "grass roots" effort of establishing collection centers at various service stations, oil changing facilities, garages, etc.?  Get the "Wheels Jamaica" members on island to support an organized collection center that they can use?  Bring an awareness campaign to the media.  Try to educate Jamaicans on the awareness and dangers of improper oil disposal through the various media outlet (print and T.V.).  Legislation would be great but due to Jamaican politics and agenda, it ill take foreever for change to come from that level.  The "grass roots" effort can and will start a movement and bring about some awareness.  That's a start.

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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #191 on: September 18, 2007, 10:44:42 AM »
Government and politics will put this agenda on the back burner and nothing will be done in the near future, or at all.  How about the "grass roots" effort of establishing collection centers at various service stations, oil changing facilities, garages, etc.?  Get the "Wheels Jamaica" members on island to support an organized collection center that they can use?  Bring an awareness campaign to the media.  Try to educate Jamaicans on the awareness and dangers of improper oil disposal through the various media outlet (print and T.V.).  Legislation would be great but due to Jamaican politics and agenda, it ill take foreever for change to come from that level.  The "grass roots" effort can and will start a movement and bring about some awareness.  That's a start.

after collecting them...where do they take them?
several articles are in the works to bring awareness. But I am carefully constructing to capture attention from the audience.
I don't want the articles to be ignored. So far I've done a survey on what I've written I've received the same response (not interested in what used oil does or I'll read it when I have the time)

I can't afford for that attitude to be taken with the article. I will get tv on board after a while.

As for collection...gas stations and garages and service stations already collect oil. People remove them from the locations for them....but what is done with them no one knows. I'm investigating that...we don't want to collect for the oil only to be dumped anyway
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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #192 on: September 18, 2007, 10:51:24 AM »
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So far I've done a survey on what I've written I've received the same response (not interested in what used oil does or I'll read it when I have the time)
Welcome to the modern apathy of Jamaica. Oil from the gas stations is most likely dumped in gullies, like the rest of the garbage. We have a high crime rate, and people begging daily for financial assistance, that's what makes it on TV. Rich people complaining about something like oil disposal won't even get a two second mention.
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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #193 on: September 18, 2007, 12:22:15 PM »
Government and politics will put this agenda on the back burner and nothing will be done in the near future, or at all.  How about the "grass roots" effort of establishing collection centers at various service stations, oil changing facilities, garages, etc.?  Get the "Wheels Jamaica" members on island to support an organized collection center that they can use?  Bring an awareness campaign to the media.  Try to educate Jamaicans on the awareness and dangers of improper oil disposal through the various media outlet (print and T.V.).  Legislation would be great but due to Jamaican politics and agenda, it ill take foreever for change to come from that level.  The "grass roots" effort can and will start a movement and bring about some awareness.  That's a start.

after collecting them...where do they take them?
several articles are in the works to bring awareness. But I am carefully constructing to capture attention from the audience.
I don't want the articles to be ignored. So far I've done a survey on what I've written I've received the same response (not interested in what used oil does or I'll read it when I have the time)

I can't afford for that attitude to be taken with the article. I will get tv on board after a while.

As for collection...gas stations and garages and service stations already collect oil. People remove them from the locations for them....but what is done with them no one knows. I'm investigating that...we don't want to collect for the oil only to be dumped anyway

I'm on your side and do not have the answer to that scenario.  However, I read where the Cement Company has offered to utilize waste oil for their industrial process.  Any truth to that?  Also, when you track where the waste oil (that has been collected) is disposed of, then you might find the answer.  I'm hoping you do not report that the waste oil that is collected is dumped at another location as waste (out of site, out of mind).

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So far I've done a survey on what I've written I've received the same response (not interested in what used oil does or I'll read it when I have the time)

Welcome to the modern apathy of Jamaica. Oil from the gas stations is most likely dumped in gullies, like the rest of the garbage. We have a high crime rate, and people begging daily for financial assistance, that's what makes it on TV. Rich people complaining about something like oil disposal won't even get a two second mention.

I understand and agree that their are other pressing issues to deal with in Jamaica (poverty, crime, education, housing, etc.) but to ignore the potential health hazards and environmental impact is not wise.  The awareness campaign must go forward to bring a change because it's our country we are polluting and we should be the caretaker of the environment for the next generation.  It's not a high priority to society because they do not understand or care about the environment but education can change that perspective.

Do not give up on the environmental campaign, it is a worthy cause....


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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #194 on: September 18, 2007, 12:45:31 PM »
Its been 16 years since they last paved the road to my home. A road that leads to a public tourist attraction mind you. I gave up a long time ago.
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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #195 on: September 18, 2007, 01:56:59 PM »
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I have mentioned several times through out this thread that the Cement company no longer utilizes used oil for that purpose.
I know you may have just joined this thread but read through if you can
I know it's a lot of reading but as 4E said, it's a cause that is almost futile
This is I am spending most of my time planning and researching my approach

Guerilla Marketing so to speak
it's an art...I am reading about it from a book me friend has.

It's hard to explain but it does a very good job of telling you what goes through a person mind when the read something especially ads or awareness pieces

I want to have enough articles to basically flood the media for at least 5 weeks

one article or two won't cut it. The information has to be continuous, relevant and interesting to read.
The approach requires more than just tv ads or bumper stickers etc. More than just radio anouncements and print articles

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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #196 on: September 18, 2007, 02:04:38 PM »
Sam Dacosta
I have mentioned several times through out this thread that the Cement company no longer utilizes used oil for that purpose.
I know you may have just joined this thread but read through if you can
I know it's a lot of reading but as 4E said, it's a cause that is almost futile
This is I am spending most of my time planning and researching my approach

Guerilla Marketing so to speak
it's an art...I am reading about it from a book me friend has.

It's hard to explain but it does a very good job of telling you what goes through a person mind when the read something especially ads or awareness pieces

I want to have enough articles to basically flood the media for at least 5 weeks

one article or two won't cut it. The information has to be continuous, relevant and interesting to read.
The approach requires more than just tv ads or bumper stickers etc. More than just radio anouncements and print articles

Thanks for the response.

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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #197 on: September 19, 2007, 01:25:31 PM »
Environmental Issues tonight

Tune into Newstalk 93 FM.
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It all starts at 10:30pm.

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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #198 on: September 19, 2007, 03:01:19 PM »
Amazingly an engineer in charge of environmental issues at CCCL (Caribbean Cement Company Limited) is an idler and I am in talks with him now.

They still use used oil to heat their Kilns, especially since Bunker C oil costs millions and used oil is relatively cheap, but they only accept truck loads. I am trying to negotiate for a collection facility that can accommodate smaller scale collection, by the drum perhaps.

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Re: How do you dispose of used oil?
« Reply #199 on: September 22, 2007, 03:37:38 PM »
So you know where things stand Sam

This was before, during, and after the Hurricane. Got a couple of airport and Riverton.
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